Post by azdesertrhino on Oct 1, 2006 21:52:31 GMT -5
I copied this excerpt from th AZVJC site posted by Sandee McCullen. Sandee is a true friend of the OHV community.
The complete thread can be found here: BLM thread
First: THANKS TO ALL !!!!! If I could I'd hug each and every one of you. I'm proud to be a friend to you all.
Second: Please realize the Lower Woodpecker project and the Martinez Canyon project are two separate issues. Neither Chris or I have been told "lower Woodpecker would not be closed". This was in reference to Martinez Canyon only.
The LW project was very "iffy" from the beginning..... lots of issues from behind closed doors but you all came through... AGAIN.....
I know the first thought is "why would OHV help develop a non-motorized (GREENIE) staging/trail/cultural site when we all know the intent is to try closing Lower Woodpecker to OHV. This has been Francisco's plan for a number of years. It showed through the inventory and evaluation plans; it showed when he approached the new BLM Tucson District Manager with questions of "how to close L. Woodpecker; and again when the Field Manager arrived. For as hard as it is for me to say "there are times I feel sorry for anyone from BLM"........ I have to admit I certainly wouldn't want to be in Patrick Madigan's shoes. (Tucson Field Manager) He came to Tucson from Montecello UT having developed a quality ATV trail system. He's OHV positive, he understands the needs, and was able to work within an area VERY GREEN. I'm finding he's not being told the entire "history" of the Florence Junction area or the part of OHV. Francisco was truly betting OHV wouldn't show thusly he could use this against us when actual "designation" comes about.
DON"T relax and anywhere near believe OHV participation in this project is ensuring OHV use through here. It will continue to be a battle but this certainly gives us STANDING. They now have to produce SCIENTIFIC DATA to close it to OHV. They cannot show damage or "significant" impact. The only thing they're going on is the Indians have determined it's "SACRED"......... motorized vehicles "break their aura with the lands" if we drive by. The other side............ when's the last time you've seen the Indians out there within a religious ceremony? What we MUST do is take extra care in keeping ALL oil "spots" and/or spills cleaned up. Don't give them the smallest thing to hold over us.
Please remember........... Martinez Canyon is under the same issues.
THANKS for your reports including who did what and who was there.................. It was interesting to hear where they positioned the kiosk/sign. I was specifically told (with witnesses) nothing would block the by-pass on the right side of the canyon. .................... "Don't kill the cactus??? These guys really don't have a life!!!!
__________________
Sandee
The complete thread can be found here: BLM thread
First: THANKS TO ALL !!!!! If I could I'd hug each and every one of you. I'm proud to be a friend to you all.
Second: Please realize the Lower Woodpecker project and the Martinez Canyon project are two separate issues. Neither Chris or I have been told "lower Woodpecker would not be closed". This was in reference to Martinez Canyon only.
The LW project was very "iffy" from the beginning..... lots of issues from behind closed doors but you all came through... AGAIN.....
I know the first thought is "why would OHV help develop a non-motorized (GREENIE) staging/trail/cultural site when we all know the intent is to try closing Lower Woodpecker to OHV. This has been Francisco's plan for a number of years. It showed through the inventory and evaluation plans; it showed when he approached the new BLM Tucson District Manager with questions of "how to close L. Woodpecker; and again when the Field Manager arrived. For as hard as it is for me to say "there are times I feel sorry for anyone from BLM"........ I have to admit I certainly wouldn't want to be in Patrick Madigan's shoes. (Tucson Field Manager) He came to Tucson from Montecello UT having developed a quality ATV trail system. He's OHV positive, he understands the needs, and was able to work within an area VERY GREEN. I'm finding he's not being told the entire "history" of the Florence Junction area or the part of OHV. Francisco was truly betting OHV wouldn't show thusly he could use this against us when actual "designation" comes about.
DON"T relax and anywhere near believe OHV participation in this project is ensuring OHV use through here. It will continue to be a battle but this certainly gives us STANDING. They now have to produce SCIENTIFIC DATA to close it to OHV. They cannot show damage or "significant" impact. The only thing they're going on is the Indians have determined it's "SACRED"......... motorized vehicles "break their aura with the lands" if we drive by. The other side............ when's the last time you've seen the Indians out there within a religious ceremony? What we MUST do is take extra care in keeping ALL oil "spots" and/or spills cleaned up. Don't give them the smallest thing to hold over us.
Please remember........... Martinez Canyon is under the same issues.
THANKS for your reports including who did what and who was there.................. It was interesting to hear where they positioned the kiosk/sign. I was specifically told (with witnesses) nothing would block the by-pass on the right side of the canyon. .................... "Don't kill the cactus??? These guys really don't have a life!!!!
__________________
Sandee