96xjwheeler
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Post by 96xjwheeler on Apr 15, 2007 1:04:47 GMT -5
Hey i finally got my 44 for my XJ, im working on preping it and getting it ready and all. i have one problem when i got it from the junk yard one of the lugs wouldnt come of so we had to take it with the wheel and we had discount try to get the lug off and it didnt work either, in the process they ended up messing up the lug and making it sheared and all messed up its almost beat up to the point when it will just fall off but i need to get that lug off so i can replace the stud and continue working on the axle, if anybody knows of anything please let me know what i would do, in the mean time im going to continue cleaning the axle and what not, and wait for my b-day may 5th and get gears and put them in. please any advice would be great
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Post by zjeep on Apr 15, 2007 8:05:16 GMT -5
Well its about time you finally got it, hope you get the lug nut off and then you can replace it with a new stud, how much did you get the axle for?
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Post by rstep on Apr 15, 2007 8:33:32 GMT -5
What have you tried,take a cut off wheel and cut it down at the base and puch it out should work unless I am missing something.
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Post by 96xjwheeler on Apr 15, 2007 16:44:34 GMT -5
well i got it off but in the process of drilling threw the bolt and whatnot we drilled threw the drum and the axle shaft plate so it looks like i need to get new axle shafts now. ill get some pics and send them over so people can see, but pretty much im looking at chromolly shafts 4.88's and locked, and maybe disc brakes, but i gotta get the damn axle shafts out first they wont come out.
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Post by bigredxj on Apr 16, 2007 12:28:55 GMT -5
Do you have a slide hammer? That makes easy work out of pulling the shafts out. The axleshaft support bearings by the flange are press fit into the tube, so you can't just pull the shafts out - you have to "persuade" them.
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Post by 96xjwheeler on Apr 16, 2007 15:30:26 GMT -5
well i got the shafts out and now im working on getting the gears and carrier out so i can put the new ones in when i get them. i have read that i have to get a new carrier, it has 3.54 and im going to 4.56 or 4.88 do i need a new carrier? and im also putting in a locker?
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Post by 96xjwheeler on Apr 16, 2007 15:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by rstep on Apr 16, 2007 17:08:59 GMT -5
Yes you will need a new carrier.
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Post by cjhevy on Apr 16, 2007 17:37:04 GMT -5
What kind of locker? Might as well step up to a Detroit Locker or an ARB since you need a carrier any way.
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Post by ssii on Apr 16, 2007 18:24:40 GMT -5
well i got the shafts out and now im working on getting the gears and carrier out so i can put the new ones in when i get them. i have read that i have to get a new carrier, it has 3.54 and im going to 4.56 or 4.88 do i need a new carrier? and im also putting in a locker? An option. If you want to do just a Lincoln locker, here is gears. www.ringpinion.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProdID=3311Welding the rear solid and installing the ARB in the front is what I am doing on the Wife's Scout and then on another Scout build in June. Just sucks in the snow though when you try to turn. I have done this before on other rigs. Not "professional" or PC correct, but at least it was cheap wheeling.
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Post by cjhevy on Apr 16, 2007 18:46:59 GMT -5
Checked out that site link. It says those gears fit the 3.73 case. He says he has 3.54 ratio.
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Post by ssii on Apr 16, 2007 19:31:06 GMT -5
Checked out that site link. It says those gears fit the 3.73 case. He says he has 3.54 ratio. Correct, 3.73 and down case. 3.92 and up case. That is the split Thick gears are for 3.73 and down cases so you can run low gears. That way you don't have to replace your locker or posi to go lower or use a spacer.
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Post by cjhevy on Apr 16, 2007 19:48:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. Was just reading about it on line. Some day would like a 44 myself. Just finished putting in trac-lok clutches in my amc 20. Thats about the extent of my axle budget right now.
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Post by 96xjwheeler on Apr 16, 2007 22:06:05 GMT -5
so if i stay with thick gears for the 3.54 carrier i can get 4.56 or 4.88 and keep the same carrier? also if i do that can i keep the same carrier if i get a locker, prob a aussie locker?
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Post by rstep on Apr 16, 2007 23:04:58 GMT -5
I have a welded d44 taking up space out here if needed.Other options are going with a set of thick gears from a Rubbie,however may be costly to have drilled out for the bolt sizes.IIRC they are 3/8's vs 9/16 and finding a shop willing to the drilling can cost.Also check into Izusu thick gears they are 3/8's mount holes and will work but fining them may take some time and buying a new kit is very costly for the fact you only need the gears not the bearing and thing as they won't fit.
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Post by 96xjwheeler on Apr 16, 2007 23:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by 96xjwheeler on Apr 16, 2007 23:28:46 GMT -5
the other thing is do i need to get an overhaul/install kit for the gears? i have all the bearings on the old shafts and from the old carrier that i could use so wouldnt that eliminate buying those kits?
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Post by Archangel on Apr 16, 2007 23:58:38 GMT -5
To do a gear setup properly, you'll need to buy the new bearings and seals. Also, a master install kit will come with new shims, crush sleeves (if applicable) and hardware. If your going to spend money on new gears, why would you install old used bearings along with it. It's not worth the savings in the long run.
Not to mention that without the proper tools, its very difficult to remove the old bearings from the carrier and re-use them. I'd bet that if you talk to any reputable shop in town, they would not use the old parts.
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Post by 96xjwheeler on Apr 17, 2007 9:56:01 GMT -5
alright, just wanted to see and make sure if i should use the new ones or the old ones or what not. thanks for that part, do u know of anybody that would help me install them maybe?
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