seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 26, 2007 19:09:41 GMT -5
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Post by rocktoy on May 26, 2007 20:36:27 GMT -5
Looks cool....when are you driving on the trails with us?
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 26, 2007 20:40:27 GMT -5
runs good just a bug or two work out 1st,then fun fun ;D
we still have the blazer
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Post by K5 on May 26, 2007 21:36:59 GMT -5
Sweet! lookin forward to seein it on the trails
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Post by 7Lbar on May 27, 2007 13:52:55 GMT -5
Cool! That was not what I was thinking wth the title.
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 27, 2007 15:28:07 GMT -5
We used the word sheep because we used to call everyone that bought one a sheep.Becuase it was to easy to get one and fix up.Now we are sheep too lol.
It has a chevy 350 they say was from a 69 vette.Not like we havn't heard something had a vette motor and didn't.Sounds real mean .we Will look up numbers later.It has what we think is a T 10 4spd trans.The vettes had them too.cant find a jeep one that has the shifter linkage on the side cover.The t case is off set so we think it is the spicer 18 not sure.It has the twin sticks.We will post pics later.Austin really knows his old jeeps and may know what is it.The axles are probaly org dana 25/44.The back axle is offset too. the major problem is the rear wheels don't drive.it has to be in 4 wheel to move.I thought the front wheel drive went out not the back.What could be wrong.Any help.
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Post by Archangel on May 27, 2007 23:06:07 GMT -5
Pretty cool Jeep. I really like those doors, and I've been considering attempting to build something very similar for the M38. I've done a little research and come up with this... Also found some information on your T-case
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 28, 2007 1:25:56 GMT -5
robert said thays the t case we have.Except we don't have the park brake drum and he thinks its got the warn/saturn over drive were the pto goes.He was wondering if that can be the problem with the rear drive not working?It is a fast jeep but hard to drive in front wheel drive lol.Thanks james
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Post by Archangel on May 28, 2007 10:25:20 GMT -5
The Saturn Overdrives were originally built with a bronze shift fork, and when AA (Advance Adapters) bought the tooling and dies for the unit, they switched to aluminum. It was/is very very common to see that shifter fork broken. Now, I've read and heard that in recent years AA has gone back to a stronger design.
I'm not sure if that is your problem, but it is/was a common flaw with the Saturn Overdrive.
Another thing, and I know it sounds dumb, but its happened to me as well. Make sure that your twin sticks are in the right position and that the linkage is not bent out of shape or something. I know on my 18/20 t-case, if the rear axle sh*t lever is 1/4" too far forward, it will not engage the rear axle. My t-case is very picky as to where that lever is. Start the motor, disengage the front axle and cycle the rear output shaft top to bottom, and just see if there is any hint of it attempting to engage.
As for the Saturn Overdrive, that is a VERY cool unit to have on the 18. I've looked into one for mine, but for 1000 bucks, I'd rather put that towards a new Atlas ;D Hope my information helps. I'm still relatively new to the CJ-5's and M38's but I've dug up alot of information on them.
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Post by Archangel on May 28, 2007 10:31:03 GMT -5
Silly question..where is the shifter for the overdrive? Maybe I just cannot see it in the photos? It should look something like this on the T-case and you should have (4) four shifters in the rig....
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Post by rstep on May 28, 2007 12:40:03 GMT -5
Great looking rig,can't wait to see it out on the trails.
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Post by 7Lbar on May 28, 2007 13:39:04 GMT -5
Silly question..where is the shifter for the overdrive? Maybe I just cannot see it in the photos? It should look something like this on the T-case and you should have (4) four shifters in the rig.... Dang it you beat me to the question James. Just from the photo I can only see one shifter, a picture showing between the seats would help. If all 4 shifters are in a row then it could be an overdrive unit, but if you have one shifter further back (between the front seats) it could be a PTO. On another note the only Jeep type tranny that shifter/linkages on the side of the tranny was the original T-90 that was in the very early CJ-2A's, '45 and early '46 that were column shifters. And yes I can be full of useless Jeep knowledge. ;D
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 28, 2007 13:58:16 GMT -5
Thanks james and austin for the help.Robert went and looked and found were it said overdrive onr the unit.He said the lever for the drive is not hooked up.the shifting pin is there.It must be in perment overdrive.Robert was wondering if it may be the placement of the shifters stoping the rear drive from working.the rear axle feels like it drags but spins when you turn the drive shaft.He is going to play with the shifters to see if he can make it work.Other than a loud throw out bearing it don't sound like anything is broken.In the pic all three shifters are in a row.Its a car 4 speed super t -10.Same kind robert had on a trans am a few years ago.Did not know you could hook one up to a t case.May not be good for off road but great for hot rods ;D
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Post by Archangel on May 28, 2007 14:11:10 GMT -5
If the shifter is not hooked up, it may be possible that the OD unit is not in drive or overdrive, thus causing a neutral position for the rear axle...just something to ponder
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 29, 2007 19:18:57 GMT -5
we found the problem the rear axle is broke.Havn't tore into it to find out what part it is .We may just look for the complete axle to make it easier.If anyone know were to get a dana 44 offset with 5.38.1 gears let us know.Or the best place to get it worked on.Its too hot here to work on it and is cramped.maybe the same place can change a throw out bearing.Robert may do that himself
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 29, 2007 21:56:05 GMT -5
found a set of matched axles out of a 1972 Jeep Commando. 44/27 danas will they work in our cj 5?
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Post by K5 on May 29, 2007 22:15:09 GMT -5
we found the problem the rear axle is broke.Havn't tore into it to find out what part it is .We may just look for the complete axle to make it easier.If anyone know were to get a dana 44 offset with 5.38.1 gears let us know.Or the best place to get it worked on.Its too hot here to work on it and is cramped.maybe the same place can change a throw out bearing.Robert may do that himself You may want to check this guy out. I use him all the time and my dad uses him for his company vehicles. He's really honest and will treat you right. As long as you don't mind driving to Vail
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Post by 7Lbar on May 30, 2007 19:20:17 GMT -5
found a set of matched axles out of a 1972 Jeep Commando. 44/27 danas will they work in our cj 5? It is possible, not sure when they switched the passenger side offset Dana 44 to the more famililar centered 44.
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 30, 2007 21:16:20 GMT -5
does dana 20 mount the same as the dana 18.We hear thay share the same parts.We plan on going full width axles from our blazer and need a center drive trans case
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Post by 7Lbar on May 30, 2007 22:44:31 GMT -5
Some of the parts are interchangable, and the Dana 20 has the same offset as the 18.
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Post by Archangel on May 30, 2007 23:42:07 GMT -5
does dana 20 mount the same as the dana 18.We hear thay share the same parts.We plan on going full width axles from our blazer and need a center drive trans case I run a 18/20 combined case, so yes, they do interchange parts, but as Austin stated, they are both offset to one side. However, I run a full width set of axles, and with the CV joint driveshaft that I use, the offset difference between the center pinion and the t-case is ok, and it works fine. Oh, and Austin, it even works when there are zip-ty's on the driveshaft.... I found the remnants of one the other day....
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 31, 2007 0:44:14 GMT -5
Today me and robert went to look at some axles and the guy had a t case he said was a dana 20.Robert said it looks like the one we had but it was not off set.Were there any non offset ones made we found a pic and break down of one just wondering about one.is it something else we should be looking for and we found this too www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/jeep_transfer_case_guide/photo_03.html
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Post by Archangel on May 31, 2007 7:35:37 GMT -5
Ok, so I am confused....an 18/20 can interchange parts, bu the offset's are different? Mine offset is close to center, and it works fine. Judging by your information here, a D20 will likely be ok, however, the 18 is actually the stronger unit of the two. EDIT: Just did a bit of reading and noticed the offset difference. I am still learning about the 18 20 combo that I have in mine. A 20 will work fine for what your looking for. And I think you can combine the 18 front half and the 20 rear half for a better t-case
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on May 31, 2007 16:05:46 GMT -5
Thanks for info. I think thats what we will try.
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on Jun 1, 2007 0:56:13 GMT -5
does anyone now were to get a windsheild for cj5.Willys works don,t sell them or know of anyone.thanks. Also james do you have any info to give on frame reinforement.the front was changed to power steering and seems boxed to behind the engine.
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Post by Archangel on Jun 1, 2007 8:02:11 GMT -5
Thats funny, thats right where my frame reenforcement stops as well, right behind the engine. Someone boxed it to there, but didn't go any farther. I'm still working on reenforcement of what I have, but look for cracks. THey be very difficult to find as they are often hairline. Look around the steering box, the spring hangars and right behind the boxed portion. Also, look anywhere there has been something welded on. A direct vertical weld can / will cause stress risers and eventually it will more than likely crack in that location. Of course, it also depends on how its been wheeled this far. My rig has a LOT of articulation, and when the frame is 52 years old, it gets a little stressed. Thus the reason I am going to the YJ frame in the not so distant future. Much stronger.
Now, that being said, your CJ is a bit newer than mine, so hopefully, the cracks are not as prominent in the frame.
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Post by Archangel on Jun 1, 2007 8:03:50 GMT -5
As for the windshield, you might be able to contact a local glass company and have one cut, being that a Jeep windshield is fairly simple. Probably set you back a bit, but I'm sure it can be done. Have you tried just calling an auto glass place? Never know, they might have one or can get one
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on Jun 1, 2007 15:00:08 GMT -5
Our jeep has the modern ps stering box added to the front frame.it was boxed from the bumper back.we found out that frames crack over the spring hangers due to twist when flexed .it pulls the bottom portion of the channel down in a twisting way.TO box that area help transmit the load to the whole frame section not just the lower frame rail.our frame has the front boxed on both hangers.the back needs boxed.James yours may not have the same problem due to the twisting mainly took up in the 3/4 springs.they would twist better than a normal spring.we plan on boxing at least over the hangers in the back.no cracks yet and plan to keep it that way.we think it was used for the dunes due to the car type 4 speed and the suposed vette motor.We fear the torque more than how hard its going to wheel causeing damge
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seeulater
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Post by seeulater on Jun 2, 2007 18:06:51 GMT -5
friday we got the correct gear ratio(5.38) axles from ryan(willlysm38a-1).He gave us a great deal.He evan gave us the wheels with the axles.We didn't have a spare now we have 4 lol.Thanks ryan you really helped us out and your a real nice guy. The day before we got axles with 4.27 gears.The front needs to be cleaned out and has a locker.Scary in a dana 25.So if anyone needs some willys axles with a hard to get factory 4.27 send them our way.We don't need two sets of spares.
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Post by Waywest on Jul 15, 2007 23:43:31 GMT -5
Got the axle changed and it's nice. so much better with rwd. Looking for trades on craigs list and may get rid of it. If not I'm planning a major rebuild and upgrade soon.
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